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Reg Oignon

One thing to add in response to Oona - "couldn't it just be that you lucked out with neighbourhood school and therefore don't have to obsess?" Yes, you're right that neighborhood school is good, and we don't have to obsess. That's part of the point - we're pretty convinced that *all* of our town's schools are quite good - given the average income & education level, and heavy involvement of parents on the school board, that shouldn't be too surprising. But as D describes, lots of parents treat Neighborhood and the other South of the Tracks school as if they're failing inner-city urban schools - or at least, a lot closer to that than they really are. As D says, it's not that we don't think we need to watch what the teachers & administration are doing - just that we generally trust them, as much as we would trust their peers at the other schools in town (more so, on some issues), and don't think we need to be more concerned or vigilant because she's at Neighborhood than if she were at a North of the Tracks school.

dr

You're right on the general level, Oona, but I wonder where the line between vigilance and obsession lies? I'm certainly not advocating not worrying about kids' educations, schools, and so on -- taking whatever's local and making do with it. But I also think that we sometimes get ourselves tied into knots, second-guessing choices in terms of how perfect they are. Do I *love* every single thing about Neighborhood? No. But I frankly can't imagine a school that would keep me that happy every minute of every day, and so everything is a trade-off.

Oona

When it comes to the particulars, I agree with everything you say. I fact, I'm pretty much convinced that neighbourhood school is a better school than hippie school. But when it comes to generalities I'm not so sure. You say we shouldn't obsess about which is the best school -- but couldn't it just be that you lucked out with neighbourhood school and therefore don't have to obsess? I also can't bear squeaky-wheel parents, continually advocating for their little darlings. But I've also seen situations where teachers and principals aren't smart, and don't know where to place kids, and generally aren't to be trusted as professionals. I'll try not to turn into a whiner, and to take what comes. But I'll also keep my eyes open.

Steel Magnolia

Wow. This is a fresh perspective that pulls me out of the abyss of fear that we've developed about our neighborhood school. It's so stressful because I have come to believe the hype that our underserved, highly-minority (we are too), low test scores, lots of free lunch schools simply will not do. I do realize that I don't know exactly what my criteria are, though, so thanks for giving me more to think about.

terra

This post perfectly describes our experience with the school our girls attend. It's not our neighborhood school, though; we send them to the public school in the poorest and, frankly, most crime ridden part of our little town because that's where the music, foreign languages, art, and cultural diversity are. My ten year old speaks Spanish and plays the flute, she just finished a smashing performance in the annual play (a musical theater production, and she reads higher than the twelfth grade level. So there. A parent from the Rich and Snooty school sat next to me for that play, and she raved about the quality of the production and swore her kids' school can't hold a candle to this. We wouldn't change a thing! (other than teacher pay, of course).

Sisyphus

Way to go, you! I was just reading Jonathan Kozol's _Shame of the Nation_ which shows exactly what happens when everybody pulls out of a school district and forgets about it.

Jay

Oh, MAN, do I know this conversation. People think we moved into this district by mistake (FancySuburbandDistrict starts four blocks away). No, it wasn't a mistake - we didn't want to "be at a school where the highly educated, progressive, upper-middle-class parents are obsessing about their children's educations all the time". Well said.

"And she's doing OK academically?" Um, yeah, she can read and add and subtract and multiple and divide and play violin and knows the difference between fiction and non-fiction and the structure of a narrative and the life stages of the butterfly. She knows plenty for a rising fourth grader, and she ALSO knows that some people who live here don't speak English and that the system doesn't support them very well.

She wouldn't have learned that at FancySuburban. And don't get me started on the football players/rapists who are revered at that high school. I'd rather have her attend school with gang members. Seriously.

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